McIntosh C12000 preamplifier Page 2

The Golden Road (to Unlimited Devotion)
Setup was easy. After connecting cables, my first order of business was to narrow the many available inputs down to the ones I actually use: one balanced, line-level input fed from my Bricasti DAC and one phono input from my VPI turntable. Unusually for a preamplifier, you must also choose an output, tubed or solid state. Any unused outputs can be turned off. Inputs can be renamed, their trim levels adjusted. I set phono gain and loading to appropriate levels. Then I started listening.

I began my listening by A/B-ing solid state and tubed outputs, both via balanced connections. I turned to Decca Records' 2022 remastering of George Solti's masterpiece recording of Wagner's Der Ring Des Nibelungen (Decca 455 555). Jumping straight to Act III of Götterdämmerung, the brief overture, the horns, as they build up slowly, were more easily differentiated via the solid state output. In Act III, I found "Siegfried's Funeral March" more musical via the tubed output as the huge trumpet crescendi waves began to break on the rocks below Valhalla. Both presentations, though, were equally valid. Listening preferences vary, along with the sonic behavior of associated systems. The C12000 is designed to accommodate that. I went back and forth but listened mostly with tubes.

Hearing this reborn Wagner was the most riveting hi-fi experience I've had lately. I own the original LP box—rather, boxes—as well as Decca's CD box set from 1997. But advances in digital restoration techniques, when properly applied, are changing the ballgame. Experienced with this system, with the McIntosh C12000 doing the preamplification, the results were mind-blowing. Never before has the introduction of a component in my reference system motivated me to listen to Wagner's entire Ring Cycle—but that's what happened. I couldn't stop. The quantity of musical information being launched at me was almost overwhelming, in a way I think Wagner would approve of, with both types of output from the C12000, tubed and solid state. All those fabulous sound effects, the opera stars moving around the Sofiensaal studio in Vienna, singing their lungs out, the blasts from the brass, the rhythmic energy of the strings. Is this the greatest recording ever made? It was for me, right then.

Speaking of great: A recording I often pick when evaluating a new component is Shirley Horn's great 1992 album, Here's to Life. In an interview, current Blue Note head Don Was described it to me as "a genius record." Listening to the CD (Verve 314 511 879-2), I sent the balanced AES3 output from my Pro-Ject CD Box RS2 T transport to my recently upgraded, dual-mono Bricasti M1 Series II DAC. The DAC's analog output passed into one of the balanced inputs of the McIntosh C12000 preamplifier then to the T (for Tube) balanced output, from thence into my McIntosh MC462 amplifier. I heard a superwide soundstage; great definition from the Fender Bass; beautiful, silent, black background during the pauses Shirley specializes in. Her vocals sounded among the best I have heard them, and I've heard them a lot. Switching to LP, I did a direct A/B comparison between the C12000's tubed phono stage and the all-tube Audio Research Reference Phono 3SE, which has been in my Upstairs System for several years. This was tough competition for the McIntosh; the phono-pre–only Audio Research costs significantly more than the C12000 does.

Next I chose a 2022 Mercury Living Presence reissue of Chabrier's España, conducted by Paul Paray (Mercury/Decca SR90212). At first I thought the Audio Research displayed a little more top-end air, a bit more sparkle and definition from triangles and tambourines. But when I increased the gain from the phono stage in the McIntosh C12000 to its maximum value of 64dB—adjusting the volume to compensate—that difference went away. (Such an effect could also be corrected by adjusting resistive loading, but I didn't need to try that.) Both preamps contributed to a wide soundstage, and low strings sounded very fine.

After John Atkinson had concluded his measurements and returned the C12000 to me, I had time to revisit my listening notes. I used the Chabrier España recording to make another comparison between the tubed versus the solid state outputs. This music, and its recording, are percussive and impactful. I got a huge kick in the pants from the solid state presentation; the dynamics were more impressive compared to the tubed output and just plain fun.

Tubes or solid state? The genre of the music, and the type of the recording, will influence your choice. It's good to have access to both.

Which child do you love the most? I had on hand a new, all-tube McIntosh C2700 preamplifier, so I was able to encourage sibling rivalry. The C2700 is the smaller child, weighing slightly more than the C12000's control chassis alone, its price roughly half that of the C12000, even though it includes a DAC. (So what does that mean? It's gifted?) I cued up a reissue LP of Marvin Gaye's What's Going On from 2019 (Tamla/Motown 0731453002210). Currently occupying the #1 slot on Rolling Stone's greatest albums list, this 1971 masterpiece really shined for me. With either preamp, I found it easy to differentiate the layers of Marvin's beautiful vocal overdubs. The orchestrations by David Van DePitte sounded superb—and that haunting percussion! Given this choice, I would have to go with the C12000; the soundstage seemed a tad wider and deeper, the timbres richer. The C2700 sounded good, but it seemed a little busier with less clarity, and the frequency range, subjectively, seemed a bit more extended through the C12000, top and bottom.

Listening with headphones
Trying out the HDX headphone output on the C12000 was also interesting. As noted previously, the HDX "Headphone Crossfeed Director Circuitry" can be turned on and off, either in Setup mode or with the dedicated switch labeled HDX on the controller module's front panel. For evaluating soundstage and imaging, it makes sense to reach for something acoustic, not some electric pop studio fantasy corresponding to no acoustic reality, so I pulled out the Emerson Quartet performing the Beethoven string quartets (CD, DG 477 8649).

When I listen to string quartet recordings, I'm picturing where the players are sitting in relation to each other. McIntosh states that HXD "restores the directionality component of the spatial sound stage." What I heard when I punched this circuit in was a pronounced centering of the soundstage. Reverberation to the sides vanished. There was still some stereo placement, but much narrowed. With this recording, the HDX functioned as what I'd call a half a mono switch. Since the C12000 does not include a mono switch—well, there it is if you want it.

A rose by any other name
People who invent new roses utilize a process called hybridization. Thousands of new roses can be traced back to a few wild rose species. McIntosh has cross-pollinated tubed and solid state electronics, resulting in lovely sonic flavors and colors. The C12000 blends the best from both worlds while also offering a choice, honoring both innovation and tradition. My time auditioning the C12000 was memorable. Considering its flexibility, whatever your priorities, now and in the future, the McIntosh C12000 2-Channel Solid State and Vacuum Tube Preamplifier merits close consideration if you can swing the price. I bought the review sample. Definitively Class A

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teched58's picture

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teched58 wrote:
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georgehifi's picture

"I dunno what you guys have been doing with your platform lately, but this site loads pages slower than ever."

Very slow, especially logging in. (And that's 6am Sydney time JA) not good for business.
As for the review, nice. MacIntosh the "Glitz Queens" of the industry.

Cheers George

MatthewT's picture

That the tubes need LED green illumination?

georgehifi's picture

'Glitz Queens", I'm sure they think more about how they look, than about how they sound. (who puts output transformers on good solid state amps? "colorizers")

Cheers George

directdriver's picture

A tube's natural glow from its filament is a sublime illumination of haunting beauty and they had to ruin it with booger green LED lights. Unbelievable!

stereostereo's picture

Most people really dig it but you can turn it off. However the performance/cost is fantastic.

jimtavegia's picture

I don't even like spam.

bhkat's picture

I'd love to have those green tubes in my system.

Glotz's picture

This preamp is insane! Includes a headphone amp with their proprietary cross-feed tech. A landmark product for McIntosh? The review and purchase from SM and the testing from JA are stark.

No one with enthusiasm for this thing? It's pretty sexy inside and out...

Short-listing this for my lotto money... lol.

Ortofan's picture

... the apparent difference in sound quality between the tube and solid-state sections of this pre-amp. Rather, the review suggests that it tends to be somewhat subtle.

One wonders how often, once the initial novelty has worn off, that owners of this pre-amp will find themselves switching back and forth between tube and solid-state. If you can settle on one or the other, then McIntosh has other pre-amps at half the price.

Also. tube-aholics of my acquaintance want their reproduced sound accompanied by a substantial helping of what JA1 has described as second harmonic sauce - something this pre-amp appears to lack. Compare this with the various pre-amps from PrimaLuna that Stereophile has reviewed:
https://www.stereophile.com/content/primaluna-evo-400-preamplifier
https://www.stereophile.com/content/primaluna-dialogue-three-preamplifier
https://www.stereophile.com/content/primaluna-prologue-premium-line-preamplifier

For me, the pre-amp "problem" was solved by Tomlinson Holman at least four decades ago.
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/apt-holman-preamplifier-review-vintage-audio.28310/
Likewise, I'm also satisfied with my relatively basic McIntosh C15 solid-state pre-amp, which cost under $1K on clearance.
https://www.mcintoshlabs.com/legacy-products/preamplifiers/C15

Glotz's picture

That statement sounds a bit jaded- 2nd harmonics are good in the case of the Prima Luna. But somehow the more accurate tube preamp suddenly lacks 'something' that the Prima Lunas' have. (Or it's assumed rather.)

There are other products from say, Audio Research, that possess the 'magic' of vacuum tubes and the accuracy of solid state as well. I've heard the Ref series many times and they always impress.

With the McIntosh and their passion for tubes, it sounds like one can simply find out on any given recording in an easy, repeatable way. Win/Win for anyone that has the income. Perhaps this design approach will come to a lower-priced stratum?

Are you also assuming that all of the gear McIntosh sells all sounds the same, throughout history? Like Harley Davidson, not all of their years were 'fantastic' for a number of reasons.

Also, lots of preamps have realized sonic 'perfection', IMO. A lot of them are real expensive too.

Those expensive design approaches and the net result of innovation over time will prove to be a benefit for us all. Digital technology has come a long way from 20 years ago and we are already seeing tech advance with this novel, new hybrid preamp. I see the same with new SS preamps too. I own one as well.

FredisDead's picture

I generally like Sasha's reviews but there is no escaping the fact that he is a McIntosh fan. As for me, not so much. Perhaps this preamp is in fact a premier product but I can't help but be a sceptic. A follow-up by JVS or JA would as to subjective long-term listening impressions would be interesting.

michelesurdi's picture

does mcintosh make an espresso machine too?

FredisDead's picture

two blue meters to tell you absolutely nothing.

stereostereo's picture

Ahhhh, but they tell you everything.

UberK's picture

I am a little confused on the XLR outs. So the system has these wonderful tubes and solid states - but you choose which one is being used? So it is either or?

In which case, why not make the choice by buying a solid state or a tube pre-amp?

Apologies if that is too rudimentary a question.

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