Wilson Audio Specialties Sasha V loudspeaker Associated Equipment

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Analog sources: VPI HW-40 turntable, VPI 12" Fatboy tonearm, Pro-Ject Classic EVO turntable, Lyra Etna λ Lambda cartridge, Ortofon Bronze Cadenza cartridge, Sumiko Amethyst cartridge.
Digital sources: MacBook Air running Tidal, Roon, Qobuz. Bricasti M1 Series II. DAC, Musical Fidelity M1 CDT transport, Pro-Ject CD Box RS2 T.
Preamplification: McIntosh C12000.
Power amplifiers: McIntosh MC462 Quad Balanced Stereo Amplifier, McIntosh MA252 Integrated Amplifier.
Loudspeaker: Harbeth C7ES-3XD, Wilson Audio Specialties Sasha DAW.
Cables: Digital: AudioQuest Diamond AES, Coffee USB; Interconnects: AudioQuest Fire, Sky; Speaker: AudioQuest Firebird, Robin Hood; AC: AudioQuest Dragon.
Accessories: AudioQuest Niagara 7000 power conditioner, Mapleshade equipment rack, TonTrager speaker stands, Audiodesksysteme Vinyl Cleaner Pro, VPI Periphery Ring Clamp, IsoAcoustics isolation footers, Gingko Audio Cloud Platforms.—Sasha Matson

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Wilson Audio Specialties
2233 Mountain Vista Ln.
Provo
UT 84606
(801) 377-2233
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teched58's picture

The way I read Fig.4, the anechoic FR plot, it seems like the Sasha V is -3db on the low end at ~40 Hz.

So this would seem to indicate one needs a subwoofer. Unless I missed it, I don't see any comments in the review from Sasha in re his impressions about the low bass (except for some comments about placement relative to the walls).

funambulistic's picture

The way I am reading the graph, with '0' as the baseline, it appears to be ~+2dB @40Hz, -2dB @30Hz and -5dB @20Hz. Of course, I am all about adding a sub, but it does not look like the Sasha V "needs" it...

georgehifi's picture

To me too, for that kind of money you'd think it would go lower.
BTW nearly all speakers lift a couple dB in the bass before they roll off as in fig 4, but these, fall off a cliff below 50hz, around 10dB down at 25hz, forget Saint Saens Symp No3 Organ

Cheers George

Sasha Matson's picture

Yeah - you missed it - my comment on some Stravinsky: "After the initial outburst come some real deep drums, reproduced by the Sasha Vs with astounding, physical heft."

And note John Atkinson's comment: "the Sasha Vs low-frequency alignment appears to be optimized for definition."
- I love this aspect. I hate phony bumped up bloated bass.
-S.M.

teched58's picture

Thanks for the perspective, Sasha. But you are providing an anecdotal, subjective answer to a quantitative question.

Does "optimized for definition" mean "NOT optimized for FR"?

You seem to be conflating amplitude of the bass with frequency. "Definition" says nothing about how the speaker does with the production of bass below 40 Hz.

Are you saying that the Sasha V can produce bass at lower frequencies than the FR plot indicates?

It seems like you're saying you don't need a subwoofer with this speaker. But you haven't explained why.

Sasha Matson's picture

JA goes on to say:
"...with the low tuning of the port, boundary reinforcement will give extension to 20Hz in a typical room."
- My 'Upstairs System" room is not large; plenty bass for me there.
In a larger more open plan room, yes a sub could be used?
-SM.

teched58's picture

...you've answered the question.

Hand-waving doesn't address the issue. "Plenty of bass" is non-responsive to the question of the FR falling off below ~40 Hz.

What, specifically does "extension to 20 Hz" mean? At what amplitude relative to the baseline FR?

Sasha Matson's picture

- JA does. You need to ask him these type of questions.
John knows my room -and in fact will be with me again next week to measure some new floorstanders from TAD. Same room, same system - but I fully expect a different set of measured figures than for the Sasha Vs.

teched58's picture

...thanks for the response, Sasha.

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teched58's picture

My comment is accurate in re the figure I am referencing. You are referring to Figure 3.

funambulistic's picture

I was referring to Fig. 4, but the 10Hz start point threw me off (counting ain't my strong suite).

RobertSlavin's picture

This is the sort of measured performance that would be good if the speaker cost $1000. The problem is that it costs $50,000. And, yes, measurements do indicate a good deal with speakers.

drduvall's picture

I bought a pair of these speakers almost 3 months ago and couldn't be more pleased. My only concern after auditioning them would be if they had sufficient bass (as compared to the Alexia V's). My plan B was to add a pair of Loki's. After installation my concerns vanished. For my type of music, mostly jazz, the bass is more than adequate. I have played full spectrum sine wave sweeps and detected no dips or brightness. Your results may vary. If I could find $1000 speakers with this level of performance, I'd put the cheapies in every room of the house!

Indydan's picture

Where is Captain Picard doing a facepalm when we need him?

canonken's picture

My local dealer put on an event with these, and we beat them up pretty hard in the large open space in the showroom. A lack of bass was not a concern. Not a fanboy and no skin in the game, but these played very loud and there was a lot of low frequency energy. No sub in the system.

georgehifi's picture

"these played very loud and there was a lot of low frequency energy. No sub in the system."

You miss subs when you turn them off, the scale and grandeur of the soundstage diminish also. I notice also you don't need to play quite as loud when subs are in the system. (my subs are used from 30hz down on GoldenEar Triton-2's )

Cheers George

DougM's picture

I was at that performance by the Who, without earplugs, and it was perfectly tolerable, and far from the loudest Bill Graham produced show I attended. That distinction goes to Neil Young's Rust Never Sleeps at the Cow Palace, always a horrible sounding room, and a show which Neil, in his own words, intended to be "the loudest fucking thing anyone ever heard". The ONLY place there that was tolerable, even with earplugs, was out in the lobby. We were in a set of seats placed behind the stage, with sound from a smaller PA system feeding those seats, and we had to hold our ears closed for the entire show. It was very painful and not fun. I'm sure my tinnitus is from ALL the Bill Graham shows I attended without earplugs at Fillmore West, Winterland, and Berkeley Community, but I have no doubt that that show at the Cow Palace was one of the major contributors. Deep Purple at Winterland, in their tour after the Machine Head album was released, was louder than that show from the Who, (as were other shows I attended at Winterland), and was still tolerable and enjoyable without earplugs. After Rust Never Sleeps, the most unbearable experience I had was Jo Jo Gunne at Winterland, with the guitar player playing slide on a Dan Armstrong Lucite guitar, and dragging the slide up and down the neck without muting unwanted sounds like slide masters Duane Allman, Joe Walsh, and Johnny Winter were adept at, and was extremely painful, hearing those screeches at 110db or louder. That was my second most painful volume experience after the deliberate Neil Young fiasco. Winterland was a very good sounding room, and Bill's sound people were generally very accomplished at providing great sound, in spite of the high volume levels.

DougM's picture

Berkeley Community was a smaller room than Winterland, and was less reflective, and may have had even better sound than Winterland. I saw many great shows there. And, Oakland's arena, what we called the "indoor Coliseum", next to the baseball stadium, and where the Warriors play, is where I saw Zeppelin the first time, just before the third album was released, and we heard Gallows Pole, Since I've Been Loving You, That's the Way, and the rest of the songs from the third album live at that show for the first time. It was very loud, but the sound was flawless, and was the best I've ever heard Zep live, with all videos sounding very flawed and sloppy compared to that show. Shoreline, because of it's sheer size, was far too loud in the seats. The best sound there is at the front of the lawn, where it's not too loud and the sound quality is perfect.

jazzybeyyz's picture

these played very loud and there was a lot of low frequency energy. No sub in the system.
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