Wilson Audio Specialties Sasha V loudspeaker Measurements

Sidebar 3: Measurements

As I had done for the Wilson Sasha DAW, which Sasha Matson reviewed in January 2020, I measured one of the Sasha V speakers, serial number 0127, in Sasha's listening room. We lifted the speaker onto a small dolly so that we could rotate it for the off-axis response measurements. The inevitable reflection of the speaker's sound from the floor reduces the accuracy of the measurements in the midrange. All the measurements were performed without the grilles.

Wilson specifies the Sasha V's sensitivity as 88dB/W/1m. My estimate, in different units, was 91dB(B)/2.83V/m. As the Sasha V's nominal impedance is specified as 4 ohms, 2.83V will be equivalent to 2W rather than the specified 1W. Adjusting my estimate for this difference subtracts 3dB, confirming Wilson's estimate.


Fig.1 Wilson Sasha V, electrical impedance (solid) and phase (dashed) (2 ohms/vertical div.).

While the Sasha V's impedance magnitude remains above 4 ohms through the midrange and treble (fig.1, solid trace), it drops to 2.135 ohms at 83Hz. (The specified minimum impedance is 2.36 ohms at 82Hz.) The electrical phase angle (fig.1, dashed trace) is occasionally high, meaning that the EPDR (footnote 1), or effective impedance, lies below 2 ohms through most of the bass and below 1.5 ohms between 107Hz and 121Hz. The Sasha V is a demanding load for the partnering amplifier.


Fig.2 Wilson Sasha V, cumulative spectral-decay plot calculated from output of accelerometer fastened to the center of the upper-frequency enclosure sidewall (MLS driving voltage to speaker, 7.55V; measurement bandwidth, 2kHz).

When I investigated the woofer enclosure's vibrational behavior with a plastic-tape accelerometer, I didn't find any significant resonances. When I rapped its walls with my knuckles, it was impressively inert. The midrange/tweeter enclosure emitted a slight "plink" with the knuckle-rap test, and I found a low-level mode at 551Hz on the sidewalls and an even lower-level one at 300Hz (fig.2). The high Q (Quality Factor) and low levels mean that there shouldn't be any audible problems resulting from this behavior. These modes are also lower in amplitude and affected a smaller area than I had found with the Sasha DAW.


Fig.3 Wilson Sasha V, acoustic crossover on listening axis at 50", corrected for microphone response, with nearfield midrange (green), woofer (blue) and port (red) responses respectively plotted below 500Hz, 700Hz, and 300Hz.

The impedance-magnitude plot has a saddle centered on a low 25Hz, which suggests that this is the tuning frequency of the large port on the woofer cabinet's rear panel. The two woofers behave identically; the blue trace in fig.3 shows the sum of their nearfield responses, which has its minimum-motion notch at the expected 25Hz. The nearfield response of the port (red trace) peaks between 18Hz and 30Hz, and its upper-frequency rolloff is very clean. The woofers cross over to the midrange unit (green trace) just below 200Hz with a well-controlled rolloff above that frequency. As with the Sasha DAW, the midrange unit's low-frequency rolloff starts at 400Hz and is very gentle.

The Sasha V's upper enclosure is mounted on the woofer bin with spikes and steps at the rear to allow the midrange and tweeter to be aimed at the listener's ears. The tweeter is 43" from the floor, and I measured the height of Sasha's ears as he slouched in his listening chair as 40". For the farfield response measurements, I calculated where the microphone should be placed on the line between the tweeter and Sasha's ears at my standard 50" distance. The midrange unit's output on this axis has a slight peak just below 1kHz before crossing over to the tweeter (black trace) between 1kHz and 2kHz, and it rolls out relatively smoothly. The tweeter's output has a lack of energy at the bottom of its passband and slightly too much top-octave output.


Fig.4 Wilson Sasha V, anechoic response on listening axis at 50", averaged across 30° horizontal window and corrected for microphone response, with the complex sum of the nearfield midrange, woofer, and port responses plotted below 300Hz.

The black trace above 300Hz in fig.4 shows the Wilson's farfield response, averaged across a 30° horizontal window centered on the listening axis. The overall balance is even, though there is a slight lack of presence-region energy compared with the two octaves above that region (footnote 2). The black trace below 300Hz in fig.4 shows the sum of the nearfield woofer and port outputs, taking into account acoustic phase and the different distance of each radiator from a nominal farfield microphone position. The rise in response in the upper bass, which results from the nearfield measurement technique, is lower in amplitude than I usually find. Like the Sasha DAW, the Sasha V's low-frequency alignment appears to be optimized for definition; with the low tuning frequency of the port, boundary reinforcement will give extension to 20Hz in a typical room.


Fig.5 Wilson Sasha V, lateral response family at 50", normalized to response on listening axis, from back to front: differences in response 45–5° off axis, reference response, differences in response 5–45° off axis.


Fig.6 Wilson Sasha V, vertical response family at 50", normalized to response on listening axis, from back to front: differences in response 15–5° above axis, reference response, differences in response 5–15° below axis.

The Wilson Sasha V's horizontal dispersion, normalized to the listening-axis response, is shown in fig.5. (Even though the speaker was firing along the room's diagonal, the geometric limitations of SM's room meant that I could only measure the differences in response up to 45° to each side of the primary axis instead of my usual 90°.) The lack of presence-region energy on-axis reappears to the speaker's sides. The contour lines in this graph are otherwise even, implying stable stereo imaging. In the vertical plane (fig.6), a suckout develops in the upper crossover region 10° above the listening axis, but the balance is preserved 5° below that axis.


Fig.7 Wilson Sasha V, step response on listening axis at 50" (5ms time window, 30kHz bandwidth).


Fig.8 Wilson Sasha V, cumulative spectral-decay plot on listening axis at 50" (0.15ms risetime).

The Sasha V's step response (fig.7) is identical to that of the Sasha DAW. The tweeter's positive-going step arrives first at the microphone but has started to decay just before the midrange unit's negative-going step has reached its peak. The positive-going decay of the midrange step blends smoothly with the start of the woofer's step, which indicates an optimal crossover topology. The Wilson's cumulative spectral-decay plot (fig.8) is relatively clean overall, though some low-level delayed energy is present in the treble. There is also some delayed energy associated with the small on-axis peak just below 1kHz.

The Sasha V's measured performance is very similar to that of the Sasha DAW, though with even better-behaved enclosures, a slightly more even upper midrange, and a touch more top-octave energy.—John Atkinson


Footnote 1: EPDR is the resistive load that gives rise to the same peak dissipation in an amplifier's output devices as the loudspeaker. See "Audio Power Amplifiers for Loudspeaker Loads," JAES, Vol.42 No.9, September 1994, and stereophile.com/reference/707heavy/index.html.

Footnote 2: My measured response is very similar to that measured by Paul Miller for Stereophile's sister magazine Hi-Fi News.

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teched58's picture

The way I read Fig.4, the anechoic FR plot, it seems like the Sasha V is -3db on the low end at ~40 Hz.

So this would seem to indicate one needs a subwoofer. Unless I missed it, I don't see any comments in the review from Sasha in re his impressions about the low bass (except for some comments about placement relative to the walls).

funambulistic's picture

The way I am reading the graph, with '0' as the baseline, it appears to be ~+2dB @40Hz, -2dB @30Hz and -5dB @20Hz. Of course, I am all about adding a sub, but it does not look like the Sasha V "needs" it...

georgehifi's picture

To me too, for that kind of money you'd think it would go lower.
BTW nearly all speakers lift a couple dB in the bass before they roll off as in fig 4, but these, fall off a cliff below 50hz, around 10dB down at 25hz, forget Saint Saens Symp No3 Organ

Cheers George

Sasha Matson's picture

Yeah - you missed it - my comment on some Stravinsky: "After the initial outburst come some real deep drums, reproduced by the Sasha Vs with astounding, physical heft."

And note John Atkinson's comment: "the Sasha Vs low-frequency alignment appears to be optimized for definition."
- I love this aspect. I hate phony bumped up bloated bass.
-S.M.

teched58's picture

Thanks for the perspective, Sasha. But you are providing an anecdotal, subjective answer to a quantitative question.

Does "optimized for definition" mean "NOT optimized for FR"?

You seem to be conflating amplitude of the bass with frequency. "Definition" says nothing about how the speaker does with the production of bass below 40 Hz.

Are you saying that the Sasha V can produce bass at lower frequencies than the FR plot indicates?

It seems like you're saying you don't need a subwoofer with this speaker. But you haven't explained why.

Sasha Matson's picture

JA goes on to say:
"...with the low tuning of the port, boundary reinforcement will give extension to 20Hz in a typical room."
- My 'Upstairs System" room is not large; plenty bass for me there.
In a larger more open plan room, yes a sub could be used?
-SM.

teched58's picture

...you've answered the question.

Hand-waving doesn't address the issue. "Plenty of bass" is non-responsive to the question of the FR falling off below ~40 Hz.

What, specifically does "extension to 20 Hz" mean? At what amplitude relative to the baseline FR?

Sasha Matson's picture

- JA does. You need to ask him these type of questions.
John knows my room -and in fact will be with me again next week to measure some new floorstanders from TAD. Same room, same system - but I fully expect a different set of measured figures than for the Sasha Vs.

teched58's picture

...thanks for the response, Sasha.

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teched58's picture

My comment is accurate in re the figure I am referencing. You are referring to Figure 3.

funambulistic's picture

I was referring to Fig. 4, but the 10Hz start point threw me off (counting ain't my strong suite).

RobertSlavin's picture

This is the sort of measured performance that would be good if the speaker cost $1000. The problem is that it costs $50,000. And, yes, measurements do indicate a good deal with speakers.

drduvall's picture

I bought a pair of these speakers almost 3 months ago and couldn't be more pleased. My only concern after auditioning them would be if they had sufficient bass (as compared to the Alexia V's). My plan B was to add a pair of Loki's. After installation my concerns vanished. For my type of music, mostly jazz, the bass is more than adequate. I have played full spectrum sine wave sweeps and detected no dips or brightness. Your results may vary. If I could find $1000 speakers with this level of performance, I'd put the cheapies in every room of the house!

Indydan's picture

Where is Captain Picard doing a facepalm when we need him?

canonken's picture

My local dealer put on an event with these, and we beat them up pretty hard in the large open space in the showroom. A lack of bass was not a concern. Not a fanboy and no skin in the game, but these played very loud and there was a lot of low frequency energy. No sub in the system.

georgehifi's picture

"these played very loud and there was a lot of low frequency energy. No sub in the system."

You miss subs when you turn them off, the scale and grandeur of the soundstage diminish also. I notice also you don't need to play quite as loud when subs are in the system. (my subs are used from 30hz down on GoldenEar Triton-2's )

Cheers George

DougM's picture

I was at that performance by the Who, without earplugs, and it was perfectly tolerable, and far from the loudest Bill Graham produced show I attended. That distinction goes to Neil Young's Rust Never Sleeps at the Cow Palace, always a horrible sounding room, and a show which Neil, in his own words, intended to be "the loudest fucking thing anyone ever heard". The ONLY place there that was tolerable, even with earplugs, was out in the lobby. We were in a set of seats placed behind the stage, with sound from a smaller PA system feeding those seats, and we had to hold our ears closed for the entire show. It was very painful and not fun. I'm sure my tinnitus is from ALL the Bill Graham shows I attended without earplugs at Fillmore West, Winterland, and Berkeley Community, but I have no doubt that that show at the Cow Palace was one of the major contributors. Deep Purple at Winterland, in their tour after the Machine Head album was released, was louder than that show from the Who, (as were other shows I attended at Winterland), and was still tolerable and enjoyable without earplugs. After Rust Never Sleeps, the most unbearable experience I had was Jo Jo Gunne at Winterland, with the guitar player playing slide on a Dan Armstrong Lucite guitar, and dragging the slide up and down the neck without muting unwanted sounds like slide masters Duane Allman, Joe Walsh, and Johnny Winter were adept at, and was extremely painful, hearing those screeches at 110db or louder. That was my second most painful volume experience after the deliberate Neil Young fiasco. Winterland was a very good sounding room, and Bill's sound people were generally very accomplished at providing great sound, in spite of the high volume levels.

DougM's picture

Berkeley Community was a smaller room than Winterland, and was less reflective, and may have had even better sound than Winterland. I saw many great shows there. And, Oakland's arena, what we called the "indoor Coliseum", next to the baseball stadium, and where the Warriors play, is where I saw Zeppelin the first time, just before the third album was released, and we heard Gallows Pole, Since I've Been Loving You, That's the Way, and the rest of the songs from the third album live at that show for the first time. It was very loud, but the sound was flawless, and was the best I've ever heard Zep live, with all videos sounding very flawed and sloppy compared to that show. Shoreline, because of it's sheer size, was far too loud in the seats. The best sound there is at the front of the lawn, where it's not too loud and the sound quality is perfect.

jazzybeyyz's picture

these played very loud and there was a lot of low frequency energy. No sub in the system.
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